Monday, June 22, 2009

A Discussion with an Old Friend.

Today, I had a discussion over Iran with an old friend who believes we should interfere in the Iranian affair. He also believes we did the right thing in invading Iraq. This is my argument:

According to my sons who have both been over there, (one for three tours of duty and one as a member of the activated "National Guard") most of the common Iraqis hate us for what we have done to their country and the thousands of civilians we have killed as "collateral damage". I don't think Iranians want "freedom" that includes suicide bombers at regular intervals like Iraq or drug lords running the place like Afghanistan.

When the people of Iran get all they want of that oppression, they will revolt, as they are now. We have no ground that we consider "Holy Ground" over here but those people do consider their land "Holy Ground" and we need to respect that. If they decided that our way of government was all wrong, and came over here and began bombing our civilians and our cities, we would speak out of a different side of our mouths. We would be horrified. But that's exactly what we are doing to them. They did not invite us to do what we did. That was a war of aggression. Based on a series of lies. None of the 9/11 terrorists were Iranians. We are attempting to impose our ideas of government on those people....and our religion.

As far as the way their women are treated, before 1925, women in America were considered the property of men. Children were told to be seen and not heard. Cultural change takes time and it has to be those who want the change that initiate it. It should not be imposed on a people by outsiders. How short are our memories.

You notice, those who agree with the Americans have a stake in the new government...the one we supported. The common people there hate us and want us out of there...off their "Holy Land". We have interfered with their government too long. Remember, it was us that supported Hussein initially.

The breakdown of 9/11 terrorists was 15 Saudis, one Egyptian, one Lebanese and two from the Union of Arab Emirates (UAE).

None were from Iraq.

6 comments:

Linda said...

Margie, thanks for this explanation.

America has a problem butting in where we have no business.

Margie's Musings said...

Isn't that the truth! I hope this president has better sense.

Sansego said...

You should ask your friend if another country had a right to interfere in our politics. For example, if the Chinese government did not like our government, would they have the right to send a 50 million man army to invade our country and install a pro-Chinese government?

Of course he will disagree with that...but that's the mark of hypocrisy. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. If we don't like other countries meddling in our affairs, we shouldn't do it to other countries. Common sense.

Margie's Musings said...

I agree with you, Nicholas. He would be up in arms if China decided to invade us and change our form of government. But those who feel we should always interfere in another government's affairs never see it that way.

Balisha said...

Hi Margie,
Why can't people see this? It's hard enough trying to get along in our own country without getting involved where we don't belong. I know so many want Pres. Obama to be firmer...and I think he was this morning, but I hope he holds on and doesn't give in to them.Poor man...a lot on his plate.

Sansego said...

How hard is it for people to understand the gist of the Golden Rule?!? Violations of it is hypocrisy. Its a very simple commandment...you don't do to others what you would hate done to you. If people lived by this code of ethics, the world would be a much better place.